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dezekiel
11th July 2001, 03:03
What are the Pros and Cons of NTFS v. FAT32 on a Win2000 Workstation?

Dan

wbierman
11th July 2001, 03:53
With FAT32 you loose all the extra goodies that come with NTFS, like compression, security, quotas, encryption, and Dynamic Disks.


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siggy
11th July 2001, 21:48
Love the Avatar wbierman .

Are you liking the new home?

wbierman
11th July 2001, 23:33
Most kind of you Siggy... Thank you. It will do. Chase and I would like our own box like Bob and Ray in the Muppet Show. :D


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dnar
12th July 2001, 06:56
Originally posted by wbierman
With FAT32 you loose all the extra goodies that come with NTFS, like compression, security, quotas, encryption, and Dynamic Disks.


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I'm no NT guru, but I do know there is still a reasonable amount of disk slop with FAT32 (there is with small files)..... Is NTFS any better in this regard?

wbierman
12th July 2001, 07:14
Yes very much so.

You can set cluster size from 512 bytes all the way to 64K. It all depends on what you are going to do with the space. There is a slight performance hit for NTFS vs. FAT32 but the extra goodies outweigh the speed hit.

I like the new Dynamic Disks. Unlimited Volumes much like Unix with mount points. No more being trapped in the DOS partition cage. The ability to hot swap disks to replace damaged drives or add extra capacity to a volume set without rebooting.



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dnar
12th July 2001, 07:34
In NG talk, this is OT, but what the heck, Linux has an attractive filessystem known as ReiserFS. Very cool, it will be my next choice. You have to start a fresh though.....

It's a journaling filesystem, were the data is also stored in a B-tree ??? (I think) format. Recovery from a power failure is much more reliable and lightning fast. Ext2 can be troublesome if not shutdown correctly. I have 11 partitions on my server (30GB) and if the power goes out its sweating time watching it boot...... Will it recover???? I have a UPS now, justin!

wbierman
12th July 2001, 08:24
Is there any software to automatically shut down your Linux boxes when you loose power and your UPSs kick in?



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wbierman
12th July 2001, 08:28
Why so many partitions? Letters C through M? Multiple distros...?



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dnar
12th July 2001, 08:50
I have my filesystem split across partions for many good reasons, on one occassion, I had a progy loose the plot and take out my /tmp directory, lucky it was it's own partition.....

C: 2GB Windows 95 only used to initialy setup my overclocking
/boot 20MB boot partition (kernels), read-only
/root 200MB root user account
/home 3GB user accounts
/opt 3GB optional software (other than the Distro)
/tmp 2GB temp files
/usr 2GB user programs / source code etc.
/var 2GB "variable" for spools etc
/backup 3GB for overnight backups, CD's burnt from here
swap 256MB swap partition

This is pretty standard for my. The typical off-the-CD install will have much less:

/
/boot
swap

siggy
12th July 2001, 08:53
Originally posted by wbierman
Most kind of you Siggy... Thank you. It will do. Chase and I would like our own box like Bob and Ray in the Muppet Show. :D


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I agree you should have your own box. Then you can sit back and watch the show.

Maybe I should change to Miss Piggy......NOT

dnar
12th July 2001, 08:54
Originally posted by wbierman
Is there any software to automatically shut down your Linux boxes when you loose power and your UPSs kick in?







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Yeh. My UPS came with a daemon (driver) and script. When the power goes out, the system is scheduled to shutdown in 5 minutes. It the power is restored, it is cancelled. I hacked this a bit so that the system that has the UPS serial connection also tells the other systems to schedule a shutdown.

Stupid bloody Taiwannesse programmers though, they called the UPS daemon "cupsd" which is what the Linux printer daemon is called :rolleyes: (if you use the CUPS printing system that is...)

siggy
12th July 2001, 08:54
Originally posted by wbierman
Why so many partitions? Letters C through M? Multiple distros...?



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What happens when you get to "Z" do you get to do "AA"?

wbierman
12th July 2001, 09:14
I can do anything really....

Two weeks ago I configured 30 SCSI Plextor CD drives as CD1 through CD30.


Where is my box? I want my box! Where the hell is Ray?


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siggy
12th July 2001, 21:48
Well that answers that. I had no idea. Now I can stop worrying about having to stop at 26.

wbierman
12th July 2001, 23:19
Unlimited really is unlimited!

Better yet, I don't even have to assign it a drive letter or number. I can stick it in a folder on another Partition or Volume or other HD. I can create Volume Sets from chuncks of free space on other HDs or Volumes or Partitions. All without rebooting. No need for any 3rd party tools to manage any of these cool features.

Chas
20th July 2001, 06:39
Originally posted by siggy


I agree you should have your own box. Then you can sit back and watch the show.

Maybe I should change to Missy Piggy......NOT

Yes i am feeling my age recently
perhaps we do need our own box.... :D

wbierman
20th July 2001, 13:13
definately...

siggy
20th July 2001, 19:44
Only problem is you changed your avatar. Now you don't look like you need a box.:D

wbierman
24th July 2001, 12:01
Just a bad hair day.....

MikeTimbers
24th July 2001, 18:12
1990, SCO Xenix, UPS no software, no port on the UPS.

Opened case, attached 9-pin socket and wired it into the battery switches. Circuit closed if battery activated.

Connected a cable to the serial port and the other end to a serial port on the Xenix.

Three scripts. One echoed a character every 30 seconds to the serial port. One listened to the port and wrote any inputs to a log file. Third script checked the file size of the log file. If it grew above 0, the script noted the filesize, waited 5 minutes and if it was bigger than before (i.e. the battery was still powering the computer) it shutdown the server.

It's all too easy these days :)