Problem with XP

[Rizzo]

I am trying to set XP up the way I want, one of the things is the user logon. I want people to have to press ALT-CTRL-DEL to logon.

This pic tells you how to do it (from the Windows XP help):

http://www.73welly.freeserve.co.uk/1.jpg

As you can see, it says click the 'Advanced' tab in 'User Accounts'

This pic is of the 'User Accounts' thing.

http://www.73welly.freeserve.co.uk/2.jpg

You can see here, there is no 'Advanced' tab.

What do you do?

[dnar]

Check your Network Policy settings.

[Rizzo]

What about them?

[dnar]

Not sure, but the first screen in your post says, and I quote:-

"Network policy settings may also prevent you from completing this procedure."

[Rizzo]

I saw that, but not having the right setttings is unlikely to make a whole load of options disappear.

[papeniglio]

Have you tried the option "Change the way the users log on or off" in the User Accounts panel? When you select it a new window opens giving you the possibility to use the "Welcome" login screen or the more classical CTRL-ALT-DEL window.

GeeK!

[Rizzo]

I have seen these options, but they don't seem to work. I have even tried changing the settigns in 'Security Settigns'. Also, I can't create custom account types, other than the default 'Admin' and 'Restricted'.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by Rizzo
I saw that, but not having the right setttings is unlikely to make a whole load of options disappear.

Yes. That's what policy settings do. They remove the ability of unauthorized people from making system changes that might not match what your corporate I.S. department wants to support.

[wbierman]

How are you logging on to this XP box?

What group is you user account a member of?

There are 3 User types:


Standard user (Power Users Group)

"Users can change many system settings and install programs that do not affect Windows system files."


Restricted user (Users Group)

"Users can operate and save documents but cannot install programs and change system settings."


Other: Administrators

"Administrators have complete and unrestricted access to the computer/domain."

Sounds like your user account is in the wrong Group.

[Rizzo]

I only have the choice of 2 account types. Administrator (which I am) and Restricted (which is like the default 'Guest' Account). Even if I log on as Administrator (which you can't do with the default setup, you need to change an option that makes each user type their account name), you don't have any more options.

In Admin Tools folder there is 'Local Security Policy' in here, after a bit of searching, I found a switch for 'ALT-CTRL-DEL' logon, but that still doesn't work.

I cannot create custom account types, or create accounts with 'Backup User' rights etc.

[wbierman]

2 questions...

1. Is this an RC1 or RC2 or the "shipping version" of XP?

2. Is this the XP Home or XP Pro?

this is important because Home was not meant for serious networking.

Unfortunately, I cannot duplicate your condidtion. All my XP boxes are authentacating off my domain via Active Directory. I do not see the multi user login screen.

I'm looking for a reg hack....

[wbierman]

Some more info for you...

Group Policy—XP Pro supports group policies; XP Home doesn't.

Network Support—XP Pro includes support for Network Monitor, SNMP, IP Security (IPSec), and the Client Services for NetWare (CSNW); XP Home doesn't.

[dezekiel]

You might want to try Administrative Tools>Computer Management in the Control Panel. I have XP Pro and the nice graphical interface will only let me create 2 types of users as well.

Dan

[Rizzo]

It is a full copy of XP Pro.

I have had a look in Compuer Management and you can sort of create groups... but it doesn't do what I want I don't think.

It also doesn't allow you to change the way you logon and off.

Also, Network Policy Settings, how do you change them, I can find Local Security Settings, but not network ones.

[wbierman]

I am going to assume you are running a peer-to-peer network and everyone is in a Workgroup. If this is the case, your options are limited. You want to create other User accounts such as a Backup User. I don't think you can do that while in a Workgroup.

I am going to try taking one of my XP boxes off my Domain and see if there are the same choices that I see when accessing Users and Groups. I'll report back later.

Please send me your email address so I can send you pics of what I see when XP is connected via my domain connection.

[ozlink]

What you probably need is to run the Group Policy Editor

You do this by going to Start => Run => gpedit.msc as an administrator.

Once your in there you have all sorts of options.
The screen capture below shows the section you are probably after to fix your CTRL+ALT+DEL login issue

http://users.bigpond.net.au/ozlink/gpedit.msc.jpg

[Rizzo]

Thank-you very much. Everything seems to be fine now.

[MikeTimbers]

If your computer is installed as a home computer, NOT a member of domain, setup configures Windows XP to use the friendly Welcome logon screen and the shutdown buttons.
To temporarily use the classic logon screen, press CTRL+ALT+DEL twice on the Welcome logon screen.

To require Windows XP to use the classic logon and shutdown screens for every session:

1. Control Panel / User Accounts / Change the way users log on or off.

2. Clear the Use the Welcome screen box.

NOTE: This disables Fast User Switching.

To require the user to press CTRL+ALT+DEL before the classic logon screen is displayed:

1. Use the Registry Editor to navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon.

2. On the Edit menu, press New and DWORD Value.

3. Change the Value Name to DisableCAD.

4. The default data value of 0 (0x00000000(0)) will require that CTRL+ALT+DEL be pressed.


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