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phil
13th December 2001, 07:22
Taipei, Taiwan, December 12, 2001 – The world’s leading motherboard manufacturer, ASUS, today announced the release of the A7M266-D socket A motherboard with dual Athlon MP processor support. The A7M266-D incorporates the AMD-760™ MPX chipset and supports up to two Athlon™ MP processors, flexible DDR (double data rate) memory configurations, 64-bit PCI slots and more. Using a standard ATX form-factor and power supply, the A7M266-D is an exceptionally adaptable platform tailored for high-performance PCs, workstations and entry-level servers.

Leveraging the advanced AMD-760™ MPX chipset architecture, the A7M266-D motherboard delivers enhanced performance and reliability with support of up to two Athlon™ MP processors. Power demanding functions such as multimedia and server applications benefit from the extra performance offered by having two processors on board. The A7M266-D also supports single socket A processors including AMD Athlon™ XP, Athlon™ and Duron™ providing flexible configuration and upgradeability options.

"Asus continues to be a great AMD partner, providing worldwide availability of a variety of motherboards supporting AMD processor-based platforms," said Rich Heye, vice president, Platform Engineering and Infrastructure for AMD's Computation Products Group. "The Asus A7M266-D featuring the AMD-760™ MPX chipset is an exceptional product for servers and workstations, and helps extend AMD’s reach into the commercial market."

The A7M266-D supports up to 4GB (4 DIMMs) of registered or 2GB (2 DIMMs) of un-buffered PC2100 / PC1600 ECC / non-ECC DDR DIMM. Registered DDR SDRAM provides increased data integrity and reliability necessary for server applications, while un-buffered DDR SDRAM delivers cost-effective performance adequate for most regular system applications. The A7M266-D’s flexible DDR memory support enables versatile functionality across a range of systems from high-performance PCs, workstations, and entry-level servers.

Engineered for optimum compatibility, the A7M266-D uses a standard ATX form-factor design for easy installation with a large range of cases. The efficient design of the A7M266-D also enables the use of a standard ATX power supply, eliminating the need of upgrading to costlier higher-power or server power supplies. Additionally, two backwards compatible 64-bit PCI slots are included to deliver up to four times more bandwidth than conventional 32-bit PCI slots.

The A7M266-D incorporates special features to protect the condition of your valuable CPU and motherboard. ASUS COP (CPU Overheating Protection) is a hardware protection circuit that automatically shuts down the system power before temperatures are high enough to permanently damage your CPU. The temperature is directly monitored from the thermal diode on AMD Athlon™ MP and Athlon™ XP processors, providing more accurate readings in real-time. Also included is an onboard warning light that prevents users from installing incompatible AGP cards (i.e. 3.3 V) which may permanently damage the motherboard.

Key Features:
- Supports up to 2 socket A AMD Athlon™ MP processors, supports single socket A AMD Athlon™ XP/ Athlon™/ Duron™ processor.
- 200/266MHz Front-Side-Bus (FSB)
- AMD-760™ MPX Chipset: AMD 762 north bridge, AMD 768 south bridge
- Supports up to 4GB registered (4 DIMMs) or 2GB (2 DIMMs) un-buffered PC2100 / PC1600 ECC / non-ECC DDR DIMM
- 2 x Ultra-DMA 33/66/100
- AGP Pro slot with AGP4X support
- 2 x PCI 66/33-MHz 64/32-bit slots, 3 x PCI 33-MHz 32-bit slots
- C-Media CMI8738 6-Channel audio controller
- WFM 2.0,DMI 2.0,WOL,WOR, Chassis Intrusion, SM Bus
- ASUS PC Probe™ system health monitoring software

The ASUS A7M266-D is shipping in quantities now. For more information about the A7M266-D or other high-quality ASUS products, please visit the corporate website located at: www.asus.com


I will check the compatibility of dual XP's when mine arrives. It should work as the XP uses the exact same core as the MP. This can be seen in the AMD document "Key architectural features of the XP processor" located here (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_756_3734^3738,00.html) (Multiprocessing support: point-to-point topology, with number of processors in SMP systems determined by chipset implementation). I am sure they will work, just not officially :rolleyes:

zhotfire
13th December 2001, 11:38
WOOT!!! Now to find a "local" vendor... :D

wylie
13th December 2001, 18:01
But Phil, I read on ACHO that XPs wont work SMP!!!!

(snigger) ;) :D :D :D:D:D:D

zhotfire
14th December 2001, 01:01
Wylie, you don't believe everything you read there, do you? ;) :rolleyes: :D

phil
14th December 2001, 04:24
Originally posted by wylie
But Phil, I read on ACHO that XPs wont work SMP!!!!

(snigger) ;) :D :D :D:D:D:D


LMAO, Man you crack me up :rolleyes: ;)

phil
14th December 2001, 04:57
Hmmm, seems AMD and playing at being Intel:


My new Asus A266M-D won't work in dual mode with AMD-XP's - at boot it reports:

"AMD XP CPU detected - forcing single CPU mode"

According to Asus this is a requirement being placed on manufactures of 760MPX boards by AMD.
Only MP CPU's will be allowed to run in MP mode unless someone can figure out how to trick the CPU model detection?


I wonder how they are detecting the CPU model? My XP's show up in my Tyan Tiger as MP's. Sandra, CPUid and even AMD's CPUID utility show my XP's as MP's. My MP's show up as XP's in my Abit KG7R. The only difference is that the XP's have locked multipliers. I wonder if the mobo looks for an unlocked multiplier to decide whether the CPU is an MP or XP? If so, then it should be just a matter of un-locking the XP before use in the Asus.

phil
14th December 2001, 07:57
OK, first preview: http://www.athlonxp.com/reviews_mboard_preview.html

zhotfire
16th December 2001, 06:46
Originally posted by phil
Hmmm, seems AMD and playing at being Intel:

I wonder how they are detecting the CPU model? My XP's show up in my Tyan Tiger as MP's. Sandra, CPUid and even AMD's CPUID utility show my XP's as MP's. My MP's show up as XP's in my Abit KG7R. The only difference is that the XP's have locked multipliers. I wonder if the mobo looks for an unlocked multiplier to decide whether the CPU is an MP or XP? If so, then it should be just a matter of un-locking the XP before use in the Asus.
I hope it's a simple proceedure... i'm not looking forward to paying two weeks salary for "just" the processors! After AMD being so friendly in the past to us performance freaks, i'm finding it hard to believe they'd screw us like this so they could sell us more expensive cpus. This is definately one time i wish they didn't follow intel's example....
:mad:

phil
16th December 2001, 06:54
I am certain that this is now a BIOS issue. AMD make the chipset and the CPU's, so why FORCE the manufacturers to dis-allow SMP with anything other than MP CPU's? The only reason I can see for this is that both the chipset and cpu's are capable and it needs a BIOS to regulate what can run. If this is the case, then a BIOS hack will be easily obtainable.

wbierman
17th December 2001, 13:21
The answer is quite simple. Why would AMD go to all the trouble to make XPs and MPs and let folks purchase the less expensive XPs?

AMD desires to make money.

phil
17th December 2001, 13:59
Originally posted by wbierman
The answer is quite simple. Why would AMD go to all the trouble to make XPs and MPs and let folks purchase the less expensive XPs?

AMD desires to make money.


Sure, and I have nothing at all against that. Why have 2 CPU's that are exactly the same though and charge extra for specific ones? Personally, I would like to see the XP discontinued and have 1 processor charged at a single price (somewhere in between the XP and MP). This CPU can then cater for all markets while still outperforming the equivelent Intel offering at much lower prices.

I would certainly pay that price for the MP processor which is powerful and comes already multiplier unlocked. This caters for the home user, businesses, enthusiasts (overclockers) and for SMP machines (workstations and high end servers).

While the XP is around though, I know that I can have exactly the same CPU as the MP but much cheaper....I would feel ripped off if I bought the MP knowing that the XP performs exactly the same as my considerably more expensive MP's.....it even says in AMD's docs (Key Architectural Features of the AMD Athlon™ XP Processor Include: (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_756_3734^3738,00.html)) That the XP is SMP capable (Multiprocessing support: point-to-point topology, with number of processors in SMP systems determined by chipset implementation)

Back to the original topic for a second though - it look like the Asus will work with dual XP's. I don't speak much German, but this site (http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?category=1&id=1008514916) looks like they have dual XP1500's running without any problems. We'll just have to wait until more boards hit the shops before we truely know.

dnar
17th December 2001, 19:47
I also dont like the idea of having to pay extra for SMP..... In my eyes, paying for 2 CPU's (at single CPU prices) should be all thats required, no extra premium because you decide to run 2 AMD products...

goldie
17th December 2001, 19:52
My german sucks so I have no idea what they were talking about.
I am waiting patiently to see what happens on this dual Asus board. I've got 1 1800+ but I doubt I would buy 2 MP's. I will be waiting for the update on what its gonna take to make 2 XP's work.....goldie:confused:

dnar
17th December 2001, 19:53
Jodie is working on a BIOS hack, do disable the XP CPU identification. She needs someone to supply her with a BIOS to work with, maybe someone can offer theirs?

MechCD
18th December 2001, 08:07
Maybe she could downlaod it off Asus's website.

phil
18th December 2001, 09:57
Don't worry, I just found this:


KingGremlin wrote:

I emailed Asus about this and here was their response:

"Dear customer,
Thanks for choosing ASUSTeK.

You can use single or daul XP processor on the A7M266-D.

--
with regards
ASUS Customer Service Center Shanghai
For marketing ->info@asus.com.tw
For web ->webmaster@asus.com.tw
For technical info ->http://www.asus.com.tw/Company/support-news.html"



Straight from the horses mouth. The guy who posted that they would NOT work has yet to reply to any questions people have asked him :rolleyes:

zhotfire
19th December 2001, 00:14
alllllllllllllllllllllrighty then! :D

Dave S
19th December 2001, 13:46
Woohoo!!!:D:D:D


4x XP1900 (unlocked).......................check:D
4x SK6...........................................chec k:D
4x Mushkin 256mb DDR CAS2.............check:D
2x Asus A7M266-D.....................!?!? NOPE!!! DOH!!!!!:rolleyes:

Dave S
22nd December 2001, 15:16
doh!!!

looks like i might ave 2 get 2 more tigerMP's....if these dont hit da streets soon:confused: :banghead:

phil
24th December 2001, 04:29
Ok, the guy who posted that XP's wouldn't work has eventually replied:


Turns out that the XP was disabled in the beta BIOS's for testing reasons. Now that BIOS 1005 is released they are detected and work fine in SMP. Sorry for my hypothetical pondering over what AMD was up to - turns out it was just motherboard manufactures being cautious with the beta boards running 'certified' MP's to ensure any reported problems are legitimate. Add to that the language barrier with Taiwan and things got mucked up. AMD will not allow MB manufactures to state their boards work with XP's in SMP mode, but the boards can support such opperation.

dnar
24th December 2001, 05:18
Originally posted by phil
Ok, the guy who posted that XP's wouldn't work has eventually replied:


Someone better warn Jodie, so she doesnt waste her time with the BIOS crack. :D :D :D

Dave S
24th December 2001, 07:50
Originally posted by phil
Ok, the guy who posted that XP's wouldn't work has eventually replied:


WOOHOO:D
cheers Phil.......seems like i've been waiting 4 ever:rolleyes: sent an email to my contact in dabs, so i'll let ya know:cool:

phil
24th December 2001, 09:47
Originally posted by Dave S

WOOHOO:D
cheers Phil.......seems like i've been waiting 4 ever:rolleyes: sent an email to my contact in dabs, so i'll let ya know:cool:



I know what you mean :rolleyes: but to be fair, it does say "long lead time expected" ;)

Dave S
24th December 2001, 10:22
Originally posted by phil




I know what you mean :rolleyes: but to be fair, it does say "long lead time expected" ;)
true..but..but...but i wanna it now!!!!

doh!!! might ave 2 get 2 more tigers if there gonna B2 long....hahaha...man i'm loosing it:hic: :hic: :hic:

phil
3rd January 2002, 08:06
Review linkage: http://www.gamepc.com/reviews/hardware_review.asp?review=asus760mpx&page=1&mscssid=&tp=


I am a bit annoyed that the 4 mounting holes around the sockets have been filled in stopping the use of a decent heatsink (Alpha PAL8045)