whats better to -nonet with?

[fizler]

I'll be going nonet for a while, and i have the following systems to run:

1x600mhz amd
1x700mhz amd
1x800mhz amd

my question is, should i nonet with a 70+ or should i stick with something small? I nonet'ed a 8 for a day on the 600mhz and cranked out alot of genes and i got one with 57 genes, but not alot of wu's..anyone got an answer for me? thanks
fizler

[Ridcully]

Jed from our team (Picard) ran two different Work units on a dual PIII over the same period of time and his results were:

CPU1 did 4 x 99aa = 117 units
CPU2 did 34 x 21aa = 73 units

So I would have to say go with the biggest unit you can get.

[phil]

I agree, the bigger the better...over 99aa and you start to get slightly more credit than under the old stats weighting.

[dnar]

Originally posted by Ridcully

Jed from our team (Picard) ran two different Work units on a dual PIII over the same period of time and his results were:





CPU1 did 4 x 99aa = 117 units


CPU2 did 34 x 21aa = 73 units





So I would have to say go with the biggest unit you can get.



I assume the stats are now weighed more evenly, but, with small units, the CPU is wasted more often, to perform re-seeding and filtering. Add to this, when -nenet, the client STILL DOES SOMETHING with the network. I have not fully sussed out what it's doing, but it does stil try to talk with something, sometimes........



Stay tuned.:D

[dnar]

Originally posted by phil
I agree, the bigger the better...over 99aa and you start to get slightly more credit than under the old stats weighting.

In my experience, the 98aa and 99a units are the only ones I see crash....

[Dave S]

Originally posted by dnar


In my experience, the 98aa and 99a units are the only ones I see crash....
Had a 56 go titsup on me:(

[ohms18k]

I agree with dnar the 98's and 99's crash more. but i have crashed more often running in -nonet mode with various sizes.

[dnar]

Originally posted by ohms18k
I agree with dnar the 98's and 99's crash more. but i have crashed more often running in -nonet mode with various sizes.

That will be due the random number re-seeding..... The client must have a bug.....

[fizler]

i just upped 1 day of work from 3 computers.. took me down 19 places and im almost at 4,000 units.. i am going to get a big 80+ and nonet it for a while...

[dnar]

Has anyone had a WU bigger than 99aa yet?

[verT]

Personally I have not seen anything larger than the 99 but have heard of 120's but that is just heresay

[LBaker]

Originally posted by dnar
Has anyone had a WU bigger than 99aa yet?

I had a 102 the other week. Yesterday I got a 12 and a 16. I'm running the 16 on a old p75 so that should work out good.


LB

[dnar]

Originally posted by verT

Personally I have not seen anything larger than the 99 but have heard of 120's but that is just heresay



I tend to think your right. Tonight I setup an additional Linux client, a quick bit of scripting had it loading units continously. I saw units from 12aa -> 99aa.

[fizler]

how do i tell how many aa's a unit has?

[Dave S]

Originally posted by fizler
how do i tell how many aa's a unit has?
HiYa, when it starts it scrolls down....
1
2
3
4...etc:)
That’s how you can tell, I think!!

[Hemi]

Is that true that the number of positions is what you are looking for? If so, I have a 92 on one of my machines now...

[Mule]

Spot on Hemi.
You can also open input.inp in any text editor the first number you see is the number of amino acids

HTH

Mule

[siggy]

Also if you do not have the ability to scroll on the DOS window, you can count the number or letters that are listed with sequence. It will also equal the number of aa's.

[Martyn]

Or you can download electron microscope and it'll tell you, as well as configutr the switch for you etc.......

http://www.thegenomecollective.com/12aa.gif

DL from here:

http://homepages.waymark.net/~lperry/weather/download/em2.zip

[Ridcully]

I didn't find that the nonet switch worked every time with em2, so I just go with the wordpad method. :)

[viperdog]

I have had a 120 and it crunched forever on the athlon 1.35 but boy did it rack up units when it uploaded..

[verT]

OK so I stand corrected, if I take viperdog at his word and I will because he is an upstanding team member the 120aa beast does exist :D

[siggy]

Originally posted by Ridcully
Jed from our team (Picard) ran two different Work units on a dual PIII over the same period of time and his results were:

CPU1 did 4 x 99aa = 117 units
CPU2 did 34 x 21aa = 73 units

So I would have to say go with the biggest unit you can get.

I guess they are trying to stop -nonet on small genes.

The 21aa should have been worth 6.3 times 34 would have been 214 WU in the old world.

Guess we need to stay away from the small ones.

[fizler]

i picked up a 99, 85 and 99 last night and im going to nonet with them for 2 days ...anyone else want to go nonet and have a big upload with me?

[Hemi]

I'm -nonetting on an 85, 88, and 92. I'll probably do the same and dump it in a few days... :)

[Dave S]

I’ve been nonetting for 2.5 days, was going to dump @18:00GMT on Monday – could go a bit longer? Name it guys? Wot time & wot day?

[fizler]

lets all do a dump at like 9 tuesday night, thats 3 days for crunching!

[Dave S]

Originally posted by fizler
lets all do a dump at like 9 tuesday night, thats 3 days for crunching!
OK is this GMT?

[ohms18k]

I'm in,

is that 9 est

[Dave S]

Originally posted by ohms18k
I'm in,

is that 9 est
Err.....that’s 2 or 3am for me...OK i will try to stay awake!!!!

[pelligrini]

Ya'll might want to read this from Stephan (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genomeathome/message/2493), From the Yahoo messageboard Tue Jun 26, 2001:
I would say that for the sake of the project, it's best to not run any one unit cached for more than a few days, since we've started to run a greater diversity of projects and we need to keep the wheels turning by getting results back for the latest proteins we send out. On the other hand, a stats race is a stats race, and sneakernetting endlessly is within the "letter of the law", though perhaps not the spirit.

[Dave S]

Originally posted by pelligrini
Ya'll might want to read this from Stephan (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genomeathome/message/2493), From the Yahoo messageboard Tue Jun 26, 2001:

Thanks for letting us know pelligrini; i can’t upload over the weekend….only from Monday to Friday:(

[pelligrini]

My office machines are the same way. Sometimes longer if don't feel like going in for a week ;)

From what I understand it's not that big of a deal to -nonet for a while, but I don't see a reason to do it if you don't have to.

[Dave S]

Originally posted by pelligrini
My office machines are the same way. Sometimes longer if don't feel like going in for a week ;)

From what I understand it's not that big of a deal to -nonet for a while, but I don't see a reason to do it if you don't have to.
I here U mate & thanx i will have to check-out the Yahoo messageboard a bit more:)