Star Wars(tm): Jedi Knight(tm) II: Jedi Outcast(tm) - (talk about sub-headings)

[Rizzo]

Anyway, this game rocks.

It good in its own right, but any Star Wars fan should own a copy. The story is good (so far... I keep getting stuck).

Lightsaber battles are just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much fun, and force powers are good as well (pushing people off tall buildings is funny).

Well, that is all I have time for now, need to get back to playing.

[Yo_Mama]

Hmmm. I was just thining that it was nowhere near as fun as the first. Not sure why yet. Maybe because it was the first. Or maybe it's the sterile looking Q3 engine. Or maybe it's the level design. But as I'm only on the first level, I'll hold off final judgement for a while. ;) But this game has some big shoes & high expectations to fulfill.

[Rizzo]

I never really played the first (or second) much, but from what I remember, this is better.

Not sure why... perhaps it is because technology allows you to do more now.

[Yo_Mama]

I thought I was getting to like it better after the first level, but now it's starting to piss me off. I hate a game that tries to make up for a lack of AI by throwing a ton of enemies at you. Especially when they are hawk-eyed with ESP. I'm talking about the run-in with the walkers. I just walk out the door after shutting the power to the ion cannons off, and the walkers are already shooting at me. If I sneak around a bad guy, I'll find he's already facing me when i pop up. Couldn't they take any lessons from thief/thief 2? ANd to make matters worse, I fininsh the level, and Jan says she'll meet me in the little canyon. I find the ship, but she doesn't pick me up! Great.

[Rizzo]

I agree with you a bit, sometimes there are loads of enemies. Most of the time though, their AI is really good. Kill off the commanding officers and they will fall back, they will look for cover, find support etc.

Sometimes I find that you have no clue about what to do, there is no compass to give you a hint - so you often wonder around just looking for things to use.

Anyway, I am at Cloud City, I have to go a force push more people off the edge.