Do I hear, Seti Collective?

[Virus]

Just saw the posting on Picards board taunting ACHO's seti team.

http://www.ninjamicros.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=19&t=000666

[siggy]

I did not know that ACHO had a SETI team too. Where do I post?:D

[Dave S]

Originally posted by siggy
I did not know that ACHO had a SETI team too. Where do I post?:D
U can't they dont have a BB hahahahaha...sorry:o

[siggy]

Well we might just have to start one.:D

[Virus]

This time around, ACHO can join a rebadged Skz team since Skz has the higher total. No one will lose their personal units on this one.

[Dave S]

Originally posted by Virus
This time around, ACHO can join a rebadged Skz team since Skz has the higher total. No one will lose their personal units on this one.
good idea man, but who would we ask :confused:

[MikeTimbers]

Phil Weldon appears to be the spokesperson on alt.comp.hardware.overclocking itself. Whether he is team leader I don't know. It used to be JetFuel but he quit.

[Chas]

I thought it was my duty to have a dig back at them
That is why i mentioned our team Skz (which is a lot higher then Picards) in the Seti Table

[SkzDaLimit]

Originally posted by Chas
I thought it was my duty to have a dig back at them
That is why i mentioned our team Skz (which is a lot higher then Picards) in the Seti Table

<snicker......>

[Martyn]

The a.c.h.o seti team is very firmly rooted in Usenet, you'll have to pop into the newsgroup to chat with those chaps. Some of the Genome crunchers are ex-seti, some still crunch for seti and Genome, but a lot are Genome only. Personally, I've been a reg in a.c.h.o Usenet for some years, but was never involved in DC projrcts before Genome. It was the clear benefits to mankind that attracted me to this project, as with many others.

There was some talk of starting a website, but the guys always felt that the Usenet group was all they needed. Part of the reason we (ex a.c.h.o) members were ready to merge, was because we felt the G@H group had developed a life of it's own, independantly of the Usenet group. Obviously many of us are still regs in there, but my posting has dropped off dramatically in the last few months. My overclocking interests have gravitated more toward H2O and a.c.h.o never really specialised in that. I also prefer the more intimate discussion from BB's like this one. Although Usenet does have it's own distinct merits.

[siggy]

I'm glad too. This is a GREAT BB.

[Chas]

Yes it is i agree

[Dewill]

What that means in plain english is, they are not gonner join.
You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Regards
Jed

[verT]

I used to crunch lookin' for ET, kinda boring, Genome is way better. I definately like the idea of having this whole forum thing. It's way better than the SETI setup of just using the usenet:D. It really gives a team feel. I never really felt like part of a team with SETI:(. It's much better here, you don't have to wade through all the crap of "I have a DELL celeron 500Mhz how do I overclock it?" It's nice to have really knowledgable people here. Don't take it the wrong way I have nothing against people asking questions (I do all the time:rolleyes: ) I just don't like to hear the same one repeated over and over.

So I guess you can say I like it here and I like the project. And I also like there are no flame wars going on, no trolls:cool:

Blah blah blah blah

L8R

[Dewill]

Troll thats the in word at the moment, what it means is someone that can not answer, or think for themself.
You can't hide the truth, now just cos I pointed it out to those that can not think for themselfs.
You can dress it up all you like, it still means the same.
Got nothing to do with flame war's.
Simple truth is all it is.
You go on and kid yourself if it makes you feel better I don't mind at all.
It still stands they will not join.
Regards
Jed

[Martyn]

Jed, exactly who are you talking about? Join what? Who are "they"?

Somrthing going on here I must've missed?

[stall6g]

Dewill care to clarify that for me? I'm not exactly sure I get your meaning or intent with that last comment. Who are we trying to fool and how so?

[Chas]

Hey Jed

Nice try man, but i d'ont think it's going to work... ;)

Better get back to the moat building, cause we are busy building climbing gear for your castle walls

P.S

Remember what the great Hendrix once sang

" Cause castles made of sand , fall into the sea, eventually" :D

[Dewill]

Originally posted by Chas
Hey Jed

Nice try man, but i d'ont think it's going to work... ;)

Better get back to the moat building, cause we are busy building climbing gear for your castle walls

P.S

Remember what the great Hendrix once sang

" Cause castles made of sand , fall into the sea, eventually" :D
Think you are a little confused Chas old bean, The ACHO seti team joining SDL seti team has very little to do with Genome.
Virus suggested a meger of the two,not me.
I said ACHO seti team will not join.
Is that clear enough.
Maybe if you rename the team Seti Collective !!!
Regards
Jed

[Chas]

I d'ont think, old bean that i'm the confused one

Check some of the other posts ......

[wylie]

Gotta go with tril on this one..... I saw a message on a.c.h.o.amd suggesting this was a great way to use your 'pooter for a bit of good and check its stability at the same time. have seen seti in action before but was never into it (hi dave mac if you're lurking).
Fact is that apart from a few guys we really are seperate teams with no common ground (ie - seti & genome), unlike skz & picard.

The old acho genome team really did outgrow its roots....
There are still some crunchers from the newsgroup who have no idea that this board exists however!

[dnar]

wylie, I did post on the NG, the weekend of the vote & merger, and left the address of the BB. Check the thread, one or two replies.... and one was from a [H]ard memeber....:eek:

[wylie]

Hey wasnt saying they werent informed...
Should have said they dont really care....just like to crunch.
SST is an example....after his (self confessed) troll-of -the-year on July 4 (I loved it!) I posted and said he should head on over to this board...
He registered, but has thus far remained quiet....
....this may be a good thing! :D

[Virus]

Seti used to be a good stress test for an overclock, but genome will work the processor much harder. You'll notice the difference in your cpu temps.

[Dustin]

Originally posted by Virus
Seti used to be a good stress test for an overclock, but genome will work the processor much harder. You'll notice the difference in your cpu temps.

Try running the Prime95 stress test. Prime95 super heats the CPU way more than Genome or Seti. It only uses FDIV (floating point divide). I would be willing to bet that most OCed systems won't make it 24 hrs.

[dnar]

Originally posted by wylie

Hey wasnt saying they werent informed...


Should have said they dont really care....just like to crunch.


SST is an example....after his (self confessed) troll-of -the-year on July 4 (I loved it!) I posted and said he should head on over to this board...


He registered, but has thus far remained quiet....


....this may be a good thing! :D

You talkin about the "Happy 225th..." thread???

ROFLMFAO! :)

[dnar]

Originally posted by Dustin




Try running the Prime95 stress test. Prime95 super heats the CPU way more than Genome or Seti. It only uses FDIV (floating point divide). I would be willing to bet that most OCed systems won't make it 24 hrs.
I once found a good one for Linux, it was a custom source code compile, optimised for HEAT.....

[wylie]

Originally posted by dnar


You talkin about the "Happy 225th..." thread???

ROFLMFAO! :)
Thats the one.....longest damn thread I have ever seen...the conversations strayed to world war 2, global warming, Blues, Jimi Hendrix and even the bloody Americas cup! A true posting frenzy....I laughed my way through how seriously some of the posters (eventually including me at one stage - DOH!) took themselves.

[verT]

I couldn't help but laugh at that "Happy 225th...." thread. It was still going for like a week after the fact. It's amazing that some people can't accept that there are different view points out there and not one opinion for everyone. Imagine a world where everyone thought the same.....

[X-Calibur]

Originally posted by tril0Byte
The a.c.h.o seti team is very firmly rooted in Usenet, you'll have to pop into the newsgroup to chat with those chaps. Some of the Genome crunchers are ex-seti, some still crunch for seti and Genome, but a lot are Genome only. Personally, I've been a reg in a.c.h.o Usenet for some years, but was never involved in DC projrcts before Genome. It was the clear benefits to mankind that attracted me to this project, as with many others.

There was some talk of starting a website, but the guys always felt that the Usenet group was all they needed. Part of the reason we (ex a.c.h.o) members were ready to merge, was because we felt the G@H group had developed a life of it's own, independantly of the Usenet group. Obviously many of us are still regs in there, but my posting has dropped off dramatically in the last few months. My overclocking interests have gravitated more toward H2O and a.c.h.o never really specialised in that. I also prefer the more intimate discussion from BB's like this one. Although Usenet does have it's own distinct merits.

Ditto here, I beleive I have not been on the ACHO Usenet group in awhile... shame on me I guess, but I get all the answers I need for hardware issues and Overclocking right HERE... sorry Usenet... !!!
Besides, you dont get the usual flaming for posting a reply or question that was obvious for the gurus... I hate those flaming sessions that can go on and on, espetially on Usenet... al least in here you can shut down a topic when it goes beyong the good vibe tone....

Cheers. Such a great bunch !!!

[dnar]

Originally posted by X-Calibur













Ditto here, I beleive I have not been on the ACHO Usenet group in awhile... shame on me I guess, but I get all the answers I need for hardware issues and Overclocking right HERE... sorry Usenet... !!!




Besides, you dont get the usual flaming for posting a reply or question that was obvious for the gurus... I hate those flaming sessions that can go on and on, espetially on Usenet... al least in here you can shut down a topic when it goes beyong the good vibe tone....









Cheers. Such a great bunch !!!



Anyone ever thought to invite Scott. D. Secor to the team???? :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

[ozlink]

Yes Wylie I was lurking :)

As for seti its one redeeming feature was it did have a nifty screen saver :)


Other than that it was pretty lame.

[Martyn]

Originally posted by Dewill

Think you are a little confused Chas old bean, The ACHO seti team joining SDL seti team has very little to do with Genome.
Virus suggested a meger of the two,not me.
I said ACHO seti team will not join.
Is that clear enough.
Maybe if you rename the team Seti Collective !!!
Regards
Jed

It's not us who are confused Jed, check the a.c.h.o membership and see how many ex a.c.h.o genome crunchers you can spot.

We wont be renaming that team because we have nothing to do with them - why don't you rename it to something? - you're obviously the one that speaks for a.c.h.o seti!

[Dustin]

Originally posted by dnar

I once found a good one for Linux, it was a custom source code compile, optimised for HEAT.....

I think Prime95 is optimized for heat too. When I was running it, most of my CPU's were ~10c hotter!! One benefit is that you can use your computer as a mini space heater in the winter. :eek:

So I used to crunch prime numbers, until I found out about Genome. :D Running Genome, I've been able to clock my CPU's higher than I ever could. It seems to be pretty hard on the memory subsystem though. Had to back off the timings on a couple boxes.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by Dustin
Running Genome, I've been able to clock my CPU's higher than I ever could. It seems to be pretty hard on the memory subsystem though. Had to back off the timings on a couple boxes.

I'm running both S@H and G@H on some OLD stock computers. (I intend try OC gradually - later.) Without running my own benchmarks (which would cut into production :rolleyes: ) what characteristics would make me choose which project to run on which PC? I've heard G@H stresses RAM (before) and S@H stresses cache size and both stress float ops. Where can I find information on the characteristics of these old (but semi-productive) dogs so I can use this information? (There should be charts somewhere but I don't know where to find them.) Or has somebody done a comparison? There's lots of seti data, but I don't think anybody has done any real benchmarking of G@H -- except in comparison to the stats change.

P233, P133, P60, K62-350, K62-500, C500, 486-66, etc.

e.g.- I seem to be getting less out of the K62-500 than the -350, but I don't have an objective comparison.

e.g.- P60 and 486-66 both get about a unit a month on their assigned projects. Should I switch them?

I'm sure questions like this are insignificant to all you guys with tbirds, but I figure every byte counts.

[pelligrini]

I'm not sure if G@H rally stresses the ram, but it does make use of a fair amount of it. Don't know anything about seti.

Personally I wouldn't run anything under a P166 And I'm really starting to have reservations about keeping the two I have running. I don't think the power consumption is worth the cycles.
Some of the bigger aa genes take 4 or more days for my slugs to complete. I've got a box of 486 boards and chips somewhere, but I never really considered running one seriously. Maybe just once to see how long it woud take.

[wylie]

Originally posted by ozlink
Yes Wylie I was lurking :)

As for seti its one redeeming feature was it did have a nifty screen saver :)


Other than that it was pretty lame.
Hey dude....welcome to the board....
Care to get a-crunchin'???
:D

[wylie]

Originally posted by dnar

Anyone ever thought to invite Scott. D. Secor to the team???? :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:
Your flame-o-meter would hit 100% extremely quickly then....
plus he would outpost you and siggy combined.

:rolleyes:

[dnar]

On second thoughts............ Lets not go to Chamelot, it is a silly place.......

[ozlink]

Originally posted by wylie

Hey dude....welcome to the board....
Care to get a-crunchin'???
:D

I would start crunchin (possibly. I still dont like the G@H memory footprint) if the stupid installer would actually install the darn program for me.

I am considering firing it up under nix however I am (as you know) usually in windows most of the time, and I still have that lpd problem in linux I am trying to figure out which is a higher priority than G@H.

[dnar]

Originally posted by ozlink




I would start crunchin (possibly. I still dont like the G@H memory footprint) if the stupid installer would actually install the darn program for me.



I am considering firing it up under nix however I am (as you know) usually in windows most of the time, and I still have that lpd problem in linux I am trying to figure out which is a higher priority than G@H.
What problems are you experiencing with lpd, I may be able to help.

[ozlink]

Originally posted by dnar

What problems are you experiencing with lpd, I may be able to help.

Well in short it wont work :)

When going through the redhat7.1 print configuration tool for my HP5l and I try to print a test page it keeps saying error printing or some thing.

So I did some testing. I can print directly to /dev/lp0 and /dev/lp1 by pipeing text to the port. I have the rpm for lpd installed but everytime I try to start lpd it dies. I am in windows at the moment and have to run, but what I will do is when i get home again i'll reboot into nix and get some more concrete information for you, such as rpm versions of lpd etc. then I can provide you with some more useful information where you may be able to assist me.

[dnar]

No sweat mate. If you can provide the following info, I should be able to help get it sorted ASAP:

1. Post or email your /etc/printcap and the following outputs;
2. What does: rpm -q LPRng produce ?
3. What does: ps -ax | grep lpd produce?
4. What does: ls -l /var/spool/lpd produce?

Also, check the following is in /etc/lpd.perms
ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap

[ozlink]

Originally posted by dnar
No sweat mate. If you can provide the following info, I should be able to help get it sorted ASAP:

1. Post or email your /etc/printcap and the following outputs;
2. What does: rpm -q LPRng produce ?
3. What does: ps -ax | grep lpd produce?
4. What does: ls -l /var/spool/lpd produce?

Also, check the following is in /etc/lpd.perms
ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap

Dnar

Here ya go. I hope you can help.


1:
# /etc/printcap
#
# DO NOT EDIT! MANUAL CHANGES WILL BE LOST!
# This file is autogenerated by printconf-backend during lpd init.
#
# Hand edited changes can be put in /etc/printcap.local, and will be included.

main:\
:sh:\
:ml=0:\
:mx=0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/main:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:lpd_bounce=true:\
:if=/usr/share/printconf/mf_wrapper:

test:\
:sh:\
:ml=0:\
:mx=0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/test:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:lpd_bounce=true:\
:if=/usr/share/printconf/mf_wrapper:


2:
[root@cpe-144 /root]# rpm -q LPRng
LPRng-3.7.4-23

3:
[root@cpe-144 /root]# ps -ax | grep lpd
7176 pts/2 S 0:00 grep lpd

4:
[root@cpe-144 /etc]# ls -l /var/spool/lpd
total 8
drwx------ 2 lp lp 4096 Jul 21 19:23 main
drwx------ 2 lp lp 4096 Jul 21 19:23 test

5:
ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
# allow anybody to get server, status, and printcap
ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap
# reject all others
REJECT SERVICE=C