For those who have a really small unit

[MikeTimbers]

Checked the machine this morning to find that its cached unit which had been nonet processing for four hours was an 8! 20 minutes to do a gene on a 1Gig P3!! 16 genes waiting to upload.

Great, but...

... each unit result upload is half a meg, right, irrespective of its original size and I only have a 56K modem link at home so I had to upload 8MB to register 16 piddly little genes totalling very little actual credit:(

Small ones aren't always more juicy!

[dnar]

Originally posted by MikeTimbers
Checked the machine this morning to find that its cached unit which had been nonet processing for four hours was an 8! 20 minutes to do a gene on a 1Gig P3!! 16 genes waiting to upload.



Great, but...



... each unit result upload is half a meg, right, irrespective of its original size and I only have a 56K modem link at home so I had to upload 8MB to register 16 piddly little genes totalling very little actual credit:(



Small ones aren't always more juicy!
Thats exactly why your better off with the 99aa !!! Too much overhead with the samll ones, unless you start another client crunching during that upoload time.

[Yo_Mama]

Umm, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty satisfied with the size of my unit. :D

[siggy]

Good one, Yo_Mama. :D

[Bruce]

Originally posted by dnar

Thats exactly why your better off with the 99aa !!! Too much overhead with the small ones, unless you start another client crunching during that upload time.

Yep, those small AAs are expensive to run on a 24x7 machine. They are ideal, however, for a slow laptop, where the cost of loosing 50% (avg.) of a sequence every time you have to shutdown exceeds the overhead of restarting.

There are three parts to the overhead, (A) the Filter time (which, it seems, we are stuck with), (B) the no-checkpoint time mentioned above and (C) the communications time (which you CAN do something about). :cool:

The lock (added to windows in 0.98) is designed to keep two copies of ghclient/filter from updating the same files at the same time (which would be bad). It also unnecessarily prevents you from updating different files unless you type YES to the prompt. Take advantage of this by doing your internet I/O while you're computing.

I posted this in another thread, but it belongs here too. (For anybody running -nonet) It applies to anybody with a LAN, but is particularly significant to anybody with a modem, even if you only have one machine.


Create a service machine for manual uploads

* On the internet machine, set a shortcut to each copy of ghclient with -upload.
* Whenever you feel like uploading, type YES to allow the second copy to run.


Of course with a single machine, all you really need to do is invoke the -upload icon and say YES without stopping the -nonet process.

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BTW, what is a reasonable minimum machine to run Linux?

[siggy]

It depends on which distribution you are running. But my Red Hat 7.1 says minimum is a 386.

[Ciccio]

The points system has also changed so instead of a linear growth of units per AA it's now become exponential. This means a 99AA will get you the same amount of units comparatively than a 8AA unit. However if you're on dialup and connecting, if does mean that a 99AA will score you more points in the long run.

I could dig out the exact equation Stanford now uses if you wish.

[MaTriX]

Originally posted by Bruce
[B]
They are ideal, however, for a slow laptop, where the cost of loosing 50% (avg.) of a sequence every time you have to shutdown exceeds the overhead of restarting.

Shutdown ??? What's the meaning of that strange word ??? Ok, I remember... we used to do it in the previous century...

My laptop continue crunching on battery power when unplugged, I even disabled SpeedStep so it continue running at full speed :)

If I absolutely need to turn it off, I Suspend instead so it resume exactly where it was when I turn it back on...

[MechCD]

Originally posted by MaTriX


Shutdown ??? What's the meaning of that strange word ??? Ok, I remember... we used to do it in the previous century...

My laptop continue crunching on battery power when unplugged, I even disabled SpeedStep so it continue running at full speed :)

If I absolutely need to turn it off, I Suspend instead so it resume exactly where it was when I turn it back on...

Ello, what lappytop are you using? My HP Pavillion n3402 gets uncomfortably hot before the fan kicks in. that bothers me :( How do ya keep your laptop from burning the table?

[Dewill]

The small units are not worth the trouble realy,on a dual,machine one cpu running a small unit and one runs a large unit, the large unit is worth more.After two days running the dual machine result:
cpu 1 36 units = total 60
cpu 2 4 units = 102
in the same time.
Much better to have large wu's
Had the same result on four machines.
So it's the luck of the draw.
But the big one's are better.
I always knew they that anyway, ask any girl.
Regards
Jed

[MaTriX]

Originally posted by MechCD


Ello, what lappytop are you using? My HP Pavillion n3402 gets uncomfortably hot before the fan kicks in. that bothers me :( How do ya keep your laptop from burning the table?

Hehehe... Dell INSPIRON 5000e 800 MHz crunching 24*7... The fan have been spinning non-stop for more than 3 months :)

It's so HOT... I put it on 2 little sticks when on my desk so there's a bit of air flow under.

I don't reboot it very often too, maybe once per month...

[MikeTimbers]

A single 8aa gene gets a credit of 0.58 on the stats.

[MechCD]

Originally posted by MaTriX


Hehehe... Dell INSPIRON 5000e 800 MHz crunching 24*7... The fan have been spinning non-stop for more than 3 months :)

It's so HOT... I put it on 2 little sticks when on my desk so there's a bit of air flow under.

I don't reboot it very often too, maybe once per month...

Sounds like an idea. I'll take the battery out so it doesn't get hot........ And raise it up a little.

One problem, when he fan klicks in, it blows onto the LCD and distorts the heck out of the screen :( HP forgot their thinking caps when they designed this cooling system

1. It gets to hot
2. the intake is blocked (unless rasied, with dowels etc)
3. the fan is noisey, and could have been bigger (the fan "hole" could house a 50mm, instead of the puny 40mm)
4. The fan blows hot air onto the LCD causing artifacts on the screen (i was playin starcraft and i got scared when my base suddenly turned white and blue)


I might replace that lil bugger of a fan with my own and rig up some on/off controll from the LPT port. Where could i grab 5v from on a laptop? The serial port? Will that have enough amps to drive a fan?

[verT]

OOOOOO I here the wheels of a case mod turning. You have to post some pics on that:cool:

[dnar]

I saw this little PCMCIA fan module the other day, neat. But how much air does a fan the size of a ten cent peice flow??? :rolleyes:

[Bruce]

Originally posted by dnar
I saw this little PCMCIA fan module the other day, neat. But how much air does a fan the size of a ten cent peice flow???

A 10cent thickness on the outside, but what kind of air passage is available next to the connector. I'll bet it doesn't work.:(

[fury]

I just keep mine on -nonet and start an upload whenever I feel like uploading.

an 8aa completes in about 12 minutes on my T-bird 1.4.

I seem to be completing more units than I usually would by plowing through bigger genes.

I'm sure that helps you guys a lot, I'm a Hellspawn :D

[MaTriX]

Originally posted by MechCD

2. the intake is blocked (unless rasied, with dowels etc)
3. the fan is noisey, and could have been bigger (the fan "hole" could house a 50mm, instead of the puny 40mm)
4. The fan blows hot air onto the LCD causing artifacts on the screen (i was playin starcraft and i got scared when my base suddenly turned white and blue)

Sound like there's a little design problem there... Lucky I don't suffer of your #2 & #4 problems... But it's about the same for the fan noise, it's about 20mm, very low performance but as noisy as any average 80mm case fan...

[Ciccio]

Originally posted by Dewill
But the big one's are better.
I always knew they that anyway, ask any girl.
Regards
Jed

What are you saying Jed? My missus keeps on saying size doesn't matter ;)

[siggy]

Size of aa matters.

[Dave S]

Originally posted by fury
I just keep mine on -nonet and start an upload whenever I feel like uploading.
...........I'm sure that helps you guys a lot, I'm a Hellspawn :D
Same here man :D just got a load of 88 to 99, so nonet them over the weekend....could be interesting :)