What power supply to get?

[LBaker]

I have a kk266 with an axia 1000 in a cheap case with a sh*tty ps. What unit should I get so I can overclock this thing. Problem now is it takes me 5-6 tries before it will boot. Once it does it will run fine but I can't get it to overclock much. I'm sure the first step is a new ps. I have crucial pc 133 ram(I'll get some 150 when it gets more stable). Only one hd in it and one extra fan. My temps are fine at this point and I do have fans if needed when I get it OCed. I've got a thermal engine heatsink in it.

[Dave S]

Could try one of these http://www.theoverclockingstore.co.uk/productinfo.php?codeid=800318
I use them with my VP6's:)

[LBaker]

Yea Dave I was looking at them. I've read nothing bad about em but they are only approved by amd up 1200 mhz. We'll see, I might just get a good case and supply. That would give me an excuse to fill the one I have now with something else :D

[Dave S]

Originally posted by LBaker
Yea Dave I was looking at them. I've read nothing bad about em but they are only approved by amd up 1200 mhz. We'll see, I might just get a good case and supply. That would give me an excuse to fill the one I have now with something else :D
hummmm been running my VP6's 24/7 for 4 months now, but if you need more power go4 the 450w or 550w, hehe yer new case..hummmmmmm;)

[Virus]

Antec's power supplies have always been rated either tops or a very close second. Not sure of the new model numbers but they now have 2 fans sucking out the heat. One on the bottom and one on the top.

[stall6g]

My 2 top picks would be either an Enermax or an Antec. You can't go wrong with either. Top notch quality that can't be beat.

[zhotfire]

Originally posted by stall6g
My 2 top picks would be either an Enermax or an Antec. You can't go wrong with either. Top notch quality that can't be beat.
I second the Enermax.... 350w dual fan is perfect for the task. :D

[Mule]

The Enermax 350w is a great PS. Running 4 HDs, DVD, CD_RW, LS120,FD,and 256 Ram on my oc`d TBird 24/7 uptime 17days 5 hrs+

Mule

[Dave S]

Originally posted by Mule
The Enermax 350w is a great PS. Running 4 HDs, DVD, CD_RW, LS120,FD,and 256 Ram on my oc`d TBird 24/7 uptime 17days 5 hrs+

Mule
Couldn’t agree more, 350w is wot i got, 24/7 x2 CPU,s @1125Mhz x5 PC rock solid :D [Oyer HD,MB,CD,FD etc too:o]

[Dave S]

Just found this http://www.hwextreme.com/reviews/power_supply/enermax/eg365p-ve/
take a look:)

[LBaker]

Originally posted by Dave S
Just found this http://www.hwextreme.com/reviews/power_supply/enermax/eg365p-ve/
take a look:)

Thanks Dave, I'm gonna order one. Just been procrastinating a little. I still have to unlock my cpu also. Need to get some of the rear window antenna repair stuff to do it. ;)

[siggy]

Originally posted by LBaker


Need to get some of the rear window antenna repair stuff to do it. ;)

So now you are having a problem with you vehicle?

[siggy]

p.s. LBaker, congrats on making Junior Professional post master.

[LBaker]

Originally posted by siggy


So now you are having a problem with you vehicle?

No, it is a conductive paint that you use to close the L1 bridges on the thunderbird processors to unlock the multiplier. Thanks for the congrats!

[siggy]

Originally posted by LBaker


No, it is a conductive paint that you use to close the L1 bridges on the thunderbird processors to unlock the multiplier. Thanks for the congrats!

What ever you say, LBaker.:D

[LBaker]

It allows you to overclock the heck out of em :D

[siggy]

I have a TB1.2 but I have no idea how to overclock. So I have not messed with it.

[LBaker]

Originally posted by siggy
I have a TB1.2 but I have no idea how to overclock. So I have not messed with it.

You need to have a motherboard that will let u do it first. What kind of machine is it?

[siggy]

The users manual says it is a K7T Pro2-A (MS-6330)
ATX VA mainboard.

[LBaker]

Originally posted by siggy
The users manual says it is a K7T Pro2-A (MS-6330)
ATX VA mainboard.

I'll see what I can find out!

[siggy]

Cool....thanx......Do you do this overclocking a lot?

[LBaker]

Nothing much hard about it. It just makes the processor run faster than rated speed. Looks like your board will do fine if you are interested. Virus should be able to help you out. Your processor should be unlocked already. From all I've read 1200 and above are. So it's just a matter of changing some settings in the bios. It does cause it to run hotter so you need to have a good heatsink and fan.

[siggy]

It does run a little hot now. It goes 24/7 on genome. Maybe I need a new fan?

[LBaker]

Siggy, some info for ya

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1335

[siggy]

Thanks LBaker. It is really foreign territory to me. I will say that the picture is the same as what I have. I will have to get with Virus and see what he can do.

[phil]

I only use Antec models here. The 450W models are excellent and not too bad on price.

[Virus]

Siggy, we'll have to see. You bought the 1.2/200 instead of the 1.2/266. The latter number represents your bus speed. We may have to do the pencil trick. To save a few bucks, I would recommend getting the Thermoengine with a Delta fan. Should only cost around $30 at the comp show.

[LBaker]

Originally posted by Virus
Siggy, we'll have to see. You bought the 1.2/200 instead of the 1.2/266. The latter number represents your bus speed. We may have to do the pencil trick. To save a few bucks, I would recommend getting the Thermoengine with a Delta fan. Should only cost around $30 at the comp show.

From what I've read all TBs 1200 and above are unlocked from the factory. Correct me if I'm wrong you ACHO guys.

[siggy]

Originally posted by LBaker


From what I've read all TBs 1200 and above are unlocked from the factory. Correct me if I'm wrong you ACHO guys.

You meant The Genome Collective People right?

[LBaker]

Originally posted by siggy


You meant The Genome Collective People right?

Or former ACHO members, yes :) Guess I should have said "overclockers" Thanks for the correction siggy. ;)

[siggy]

Your forgiven.....


<<HUG>>

[phil]

Originally posted by LBaker


From what I've read all TBs 1200 and above are unlocked from the factory. Correct me if I'm wrong you ACHO guys.


Nope, that is correct :)

[LBaker]

Just an update, ordered the enermax 350 ps and also 256mb of pc150 ram. We'll see what this puppy can do in a day or 2 :D Think I can hit 1400?

KK266-1000axia chip

[dnar]

Should be a doddle. My 1000Mhz AXIA K runs 24x7 @ 1450 with cas3 PC150 SDRAM. Has run > 1500!

[LBaker]

Here's the scoop for those interested. New power supply is in. Had the same troubles as before. I went in and upped the cpu voltage a bit and she is purring like a kitten! :D It's at 1.825. Too high? Temps seem to be holding at mid 40's under stress?

[dnar]

Thats fine. Like I said in the Chat Room, 1.85V is Ok, some ppes run upto 2.0V!!!!



Vio can be raised to 3.5 or 3.6 volts as well, especially with 150FSB

[Martyn]

Originally posted by stall6g
My 2 top picks would be either an Enermax or an Antec. You can't go wrong with either. Top notch quality that can't be beat.

I second the enermax. I have two the 451 and 650 (430watts and 550watts respectively). They are both superb, I've had absolutely no problems with load (inc peltiers), signal clarity, stability or whatever. The build quality is excellent and they both chug away happily regardless of whether I'm hot swapping fans, testing pelts or whatever. You get 8 molex connectors, all gold plated, an additional power cable and the main ATX is neatly wrapped in mesh. The variable speed fans are near silent with mobo headers attached - superb!

[siggy]

So the kind of power supply actually makes a difference?

[zhotfire]

Originally posted by siggy
So the kind of power supply actually makes a difference?
Yep... you've got to make sure the power supply you use can supply enough juice to all the parts of your puter. Most manufacturers include power consumption as part of their specs for whatever product they're making. As a rough example, if all the parts of your system(excluding monitor of course) require 280watts of power(total), then a 250watt power supply would have a hard time. Sure, it may try to put out 30watts more than it's rated for, but it may overheat or not be able to supply the proper voltage/amperage the components need, causing the system to be unstable or not work at all.... There's alot more to it than that of course, but you get the idea. :)

[siggy]

So even if my monitor is plugged into the wall It still uses the power supply in the computer?

[Martyn]

Originally posted by siggy
So even if my monitor is plugged into the wall It still uses the power supply in the computer?

No, your monitor is independant, just the stuff inside the main box runs from the internal PS, plus most USB stuff that doesn't have external PS. For example, graphics cards, sound cards, motherboard, CD rom's hard disks etc.

[Martyn]

Originally posted by LBaker


From what I've read all TBs 1200 and above are unlocked from the factory. Correct me if I'm wrong you ACHO guys.

Like Phil says, spot on. I've got a 1.2/200 factory unlocked, that will post at 160FSB and runs solid as a rock at 150.

[siggy]

So how do I determine what size PS I need?

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by siggy
So how do I determine what size PS I need?

It boils down to this siggy...

If you are buying a new case, a mid tower case with a 300w PS is usually only 5-10 dollars more than a case with a 250w PS, so just get the 300w case. When buying a replacement PS, it depends on what you are putting in the computer. To make it really simple, for every one that will be running an Athlon, I just recommend buying a 300w PS. Most basic Intel systems will chug along with a 250w no problem.

The 300w will give you extra room to OC and/or add copius amounts of HDs. If you want some detailed information, look here:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/power-supply3.htm
and here:
http://www1.amd.com/athlon/power

cya :)

[siggy]

I am looking for a replacement PS. So I will look for a 300.

Thanks RD.

[wbierman]

Look no further than PC Power and Cooling. They make the best Power Supplies in the industry. I use them exclusively... If you like quite machines check out their "silencer" PS.

I have never had one fail! They also handle brown outs better than any other I have tried.

http://www.pcpowercooling.com

[siggy]

Thanks wbierman. I will check it out.

[stall6g]

Well I broke down and bought an el cheapo 400 watt Future power psu to add another box to my humble little farm. It even came with this case for free:
http://webpages.charter.net/stall6g/cheapcase.jpg

For $30 hopefully it won't have any problems handling a duron setup.

[stall6g]

Forgot to ask if anyone has ever used a futre power psu and if so did it fail on them? I'm not going to be putting a lot into this system so I doubt that I am really going to stress it that much.

[siggy]

Where did you get a case and a PS for $30?

[stall6g]

Was passing by a comp show as they were closing to pick up a couple of cables and managed to talk the vendor into knocking it down to $30.

[siggy]

Well good luck. I hope it all works out.