Let the games begin! [Archive] - The Genome Collective

SkzDaLimit

27th July 2001, 23:31

Originally posted by dnar
Premature communication! I hope this is not a trick...... :suspicious thinking mode off:

Data is not one to miscommunicate, if he said he was dumping, then he is intending on doing it. It is going to take 21 hours anyways for him to do the whole thing.

I think we need to just go ahead and dump away and get it over with.

It wont make a difference, we have them in 2 days at the least anyways. Might as well put them out of their misery.

Assimilate Away!

dnar

27th July 2001, 23:43

15 big fat juicy geneomes heading for target... All 86aa - 99aa.

Dustin

28th July 2001, 08:59

28, 85 & 86aa's dumped. :D

Medic193

28th July 2001, 09:45

Originally posted by Dustin
BTW Medic, I like your new avatar! :cool:

heh, thanks!:D

Dustin

28th July 2001, 11:15

The numbers are so close!

Wouldn't it be ironic if we pass Picard while Data is dumping?

fizler

28th July 2001, 11:29

about to dump 3x99's and 5x55's!

X-Calibur

28th July 2001, 11:37

Ok, here's my dump.. not very impressive I'm afraid

3 X 98 aa. (28.91)
2 X 85 aa. (22.31)
25 X 56 aa. (10.31)
-------

86,73 + 44,62 + 257,75 == 389,10

I beleive the PC's at work have something around 400 whoonits ready to be fired on Monday evening...

So let's make this little 390 whoonits for the TANK

Dustin

28th July 2001, 20:53

So, is everyone just hangin around waitin for the next update?

Dave S

28th July 2001, 20:58

Originally posted by Dustin
So, is everyone just hangin around waitin for the next update?
yes ;) god its hot!!!

Martyn

28th July 2001, 21:18

Originally posted by Medic193

heh, thanks!:D

http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/ecg.gif

Avatar cardiovascular status: Sinus bradycardia (40 bpm), short P-Q interval, normal QRS complex, normal t waves - hehe ;)

test.....
Identify arythmias:

1. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/1.gif

2. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/2.gif

3. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/3.gif

4. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/4.gif

MaTriX

28th July 2001, 21:34

Why is everyone so excited about Data's dumps ??? Our average daily production is much higher than Picard's (more than double) and the days where Data send his stuff, they get to around our production but not over...

Martyn

28th July 2001, 21:40

I think folks are just twitched :)

This high up the league, teams don't move very often and this is also TGC's first conquest, so i think we just want it to be convincing. You're right though, unless data had 30 PC's he's been nonetting for a couple of months, it'll make no difference. I think it all came from when we were talking of taking 5th and possibly loosing it straight after (albeit only for a few updates) as a result of a big "data-dump". Fact is, big as they may be, they aint big enough :)

Virus

28th July 2001, 21:43

Data's dump was but a pin prick. In 3 days time we will be 5th. Picard was a mighty team and a good fight occured. Unfortunately, there's a new team in town, and that team is "The Genome Collective". Next goal, Pirate hunting! Go TGC!

Medic193

28th July 2001, 23:40

Tril do you call them P-Q intervals over there? In the states we refer to them as P-R intervals. If I had this printed out, I'd probably think this was short and I'd call it a junctional rhythm. :D

Now for your test.

[list=1]
V-fib
Accelerated Junctional with ST elevation. R/O MI
left bundle branch block due to the the R and R prime. Want to see a longer strip and a 12 lead please
Paced rhythm
[/list=1]

dnar

29th July 2001, 03:02

From Dyryyaths stats on Sun 29 July 00:03:00 (EST), last 24 hour totals:

Picard: 8988 units

TGC: 9396 units

I thought we were out producing Picard? Ok, who is still nonetting? :D

Picard have maintained a 12,000 unit lead on us over the past 18 hours..... what gives?

Chas

29th July 2001, 03:43

Originally posted by dnar
From Dyryyaths stats on Sun 29 July 00:03:00 (EST), last 24 hour totals:

Picard: 8988 units

TGC: 9396 units

I thought we were out producing Picard? Ok, who is still nonetting? :D

Picard have maintained a 12,000 unit lead on us over the past 18 hours..... what gives?

Look at the last update now their lead is down to 11000 and we wopped their ass....... it may be over Resistance Was Futile.... :D

zhotfire

29th July 2001, 04:39

My birds are empty... with nothin' but love to give.... err, i mean crunchin on fresh meat...genes, GENES i mean! ;)

Dave S

29th July 2001, 04:58

Originally posted by dnar
From Dyryyaths stats on Sun 29 July 00:03:00 (EST), last 24 hour totals:

Picard: 8988 units

TGC: 9396 units

I thought we were out producing Picard? Ok, who is still nonetting? :D

Picard have maintained a 12,000 unit lead on us over the past 18 hours..... what gives?
Hey don’t sweat it man that was data 6k, but by Tuesday 11pm we WILL be 5th :D
Yes I’m still no netting be will be dumping @18:00GMT Tuesday :D

Medic193

29th July 2001, 05:31

Originally posted by Dave S

Hey don’t sweat it man that was data 6k, but by Tuesday 11pm we WILL be 5th :D
Yes I’m still no netting be will be dumping @18:00GMT Tuesday :D

If Dave is No Netting it will probably be a huge dump.:D

Martyn

29th July 2001, 06:42

MaTriX

29th July 2001, 08:41

FACTS FACTS FACTS

Since we merged (well, since I started collecting stats, couple hours after the official merge) :

Daily Average : Picard 4271 / TGC 8029

Only one day (2001/07/14) their production was higher than our's, and probably only because it happened that Data dumped on our lowest production day ever...

http://pages.infinit.net/jclaudev/PICvsTGC.gif

phil

29th July 2001, 10:46

Nice stats MaTriX :)

X-Calibur

29th July 2001, 12:37

Originally posted by Medic193
Tril do you call them P-Q intervals over there? In the states we refer to them as P-R intervals. If I had this printed out, I'd probably think this was short and I'd call it a junctional rhythm. :D

Now for your test.

[list=1]
V-fib
Accelerated Junctional with ST elevation. R/O MI
left bundle branch block due to the the R and R prime. Want to see a longer strip and a 12 lead please
Paced rhythm
[/list=1]

This is really too funny, I was thinking of posting some Rythms too for the Med Crew out there.... either my brain is slow or we keep getting the same ideas... LOL

I might do later, I have a real bunch of them.... !!!

phil

29th July 2001, 13:48

Originally posted by tril0Byte

4. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/4.gif

It may be a pacing spike, but it looks like an inverted T wave that is indicative of a previous MI (within the last couple of weeks)...whaddaya think? :D

X-Calibur

29th July 2001, 14:26

Originally posted by phil

It may be a pacing spike, but it looks like an inverted T wave that is indicative of a previous MI...whaddaya think? :D

Nope the inverted T wave on this paced rythm is probably due to a single chamber pace in the right ventriculum. Hence an inverted repolarization wave... paced rythm are tricky cuz they mask alot of info....

just a though, you would have to ask Medic or Tril0Byte for this.. they see that kinda stuff a shit load more often then I do....

Medic193

29th July 2001, 14:51

Well I really pay no attention to what the rhythm looks like if it's paced. That doesn't mean I don't look at it though. :D I've seen some REALLY funky rhythms that were paced. When I was new, I would crap my pants sometimes until I realized it was paced.:D I'll start to post some strips of calls I run soon. Last night we had a 21 y/o that had fallen through a glass table and a piece had punctured his left chest. He was at the trauma center and patched up and given Lortab. He was at a party last night where he arrested. It turns out he was Tamponade. The ER doc cracked his chest but he just bled out. Too bad a 21 y/o has to die that way. I really don't care if it's a gangbanger or something along that lines, but when it's a good kid you kind of get choked up.:( Well, until next time, EMS stories of the wacky and weird signs off.:D

Phil- The way I view the S wave is an elevation is primarily MI and secondary Ischemia, an Inverted S wave would be just reversed. Primary - Ischemia and secondary - MI. But a paced rhythm throws all that out the window. :D :p :D

phil

29th July 2001, 15:44

Originally posted by Medic193

Phil- The way I view the S wave is an elevation is primarily MI and secondary Ischemia, an Inverted S wave would be just reversed. Primary - Ischemia and secondary - MI. But a paced rhythm throws all that out the window. :D :p :D

LOL...as long as it's paced it doesn't matter :D ....Actually, that was my mother's diagnosis....she agrees with all your answers, but she added a little more for number 4 ;)

siggy

29th July 2001, 20:48

I think you 3 need your own forum. :D This stuff is getting pretty heavy.:p

wylie

29th July 2001, 21:08

How about Free TGC medical consultations?:D

Chris Wolfe

30th July 2001, 01:14

Originally posted by tril0Byte

http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/ecg.gif

Avatar cardiovascular status: Sinus bradycardia (40 bpm), short P-Q interval, normal QRS complex, normal t waves - hehe ;)

test.....
Identify arythmias:

1. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/1.gif

2. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/2.gif

3. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/3.gif

4. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/4.gif

1. Tango
2. Samba
3. Mambo
4. Heavy Metal (heavy bass line)
:D

Martyn

30th July 2001, 05:24

Originally posted by phil

It may be a pacing spike, but it looks like an inverted T wave that is indicative of a previous MI (within the last couple of weeks)...whaddaya think? :D

It's a paced rhythm! There's only so much you can do with a lead 2 rhythm strip, you need a 12 lead to get any real meaning, especially when the rhythm is screwed with a pacing spike.

wylie

30th July 2001, 07:25

Just what I was thinking:rolleyes:

Dustin

30th July 2001, 08:19

Originally posted by wylie
Just what I was thinking:rolleyes:

Me too:D:D

Martyn

30th July 2001, 12:43

OK super-medics, here's another for your deliberation and consideration...

1. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/cthead1.jpg

1a. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/cthead2.jpg

<RolfHarrisVoice> ...can you see what it is yit?... </RolfHarrisVoice>

Two CT head scans, same head, but whats the problem here?

Here's three more rhythm strips :)

2. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/5.gif

3. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/6.gif

4. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/7.gif

One is easy, but what about the other two??? ;)

SkzDaLimit

30th July 2001, 14:07

Ok, my turn to play "Stump the Medical Expert". Teena found and scanned this for me:

http://www.skzdalimit.com/ekg1.jpg

Sorry for the quality, Teena scanned it from a piece of paper from when she was in nursing school many, many years ago. Hope you all can read it ok.

SkzDaLimit

30th July 2001, 14:18

The 2 CT scans look like a gunshot wound to the head.

The tracer effect would be the path of the bullet as it bounced through the brain and is the path of the bullet as it bounced around. Looks like some fragments are in the center of the scan itself.

Not sure about the strips, but thats my guess on the CT's.

Martyn

30th July 2001, 14:35

Originally posted by SkzDaLimit
Ok, my turn to play "Stump the Medical Expert". Teena found and scanned this for me:

http://www.skzdalimit.com/ekg1.jpg

Sorry for the quality, Teena scanned it from a piece of paper from when she was in nursing school many, many years ago. Hope you all can read it ok.

best guess - fist degree heart block with ischeamia (irregular rhythm, long P-R interval and flipped T waves) - uncool heart!

Martyn

30th July 2001, 14:36

Originally posted by SkzDaLimit
The 2 CT scans look like a gunshot wound to the head.

The tracer effect would be the path of the bullet as it bounced through the brain and is the path of the bullet as it bounced around. Looks like some fragments are in the center of the scan itself.

Not sure about the strips, but thats my guess on the CT's.

Hehe - nice try but not quite :) It's a bit of a "medical urban legend" is this, but here's the proff that it really happens :)

MechCD

30th July 2001, 14:41

What the heck is #1A? Looks like a blown up artery or something. Ewwwwwwww

Or a stroke?

Martyn

30th July 2001, 15:00

Originally posted by MechCD
What the heck is #1A? Looks like a blown up artery or something. Ewwwwwwww

Or a stroke?

The reality is even wierder :)

Keep guessing guys :)

SkzDaLimit

30th July 2001, 15:10

Originally posted by tril0Byte

Hehe - nice try but not quite :) It's a bit of a "medical urban legend" is this, but here's the proff that it really happens :)

Is that the woman with the worm in her brain? I read or heard something on the news about that recently.

Good guess on the EKG, but not correct.

Hans Arne Iversen

30th July 2001, 15:13

Looks like my old car after the meeting with the bus:D

Martyn

30th July 2001, 15:17

Originally posted by SkzDaLimit

Good guess on the EKG, but not correct.

OK, second best guess, Digoxin toxicity!

Skz - not the worm thing either :)

Martyn

30th July 2001, 21:59

any more offers on the CT scan guys, or have you conceeded defeat ;)

MechCD

30th July 2001, 22:04

Cancer? surgical implant? A loose wire on the front of the ct camera (or whatever)

Hmmm, 1 seems to have a fracture towards the bottom (of the pic) while 1a doesn't

I wanna know!

Dustin

30th July 2001, 22:08

It's a digital graph of a spectrum analyzer? Oscilloscope style.

MechCD

30th July 2001, 22:10

Originally posted by Dustin
It's a digital graph of a spectrum analyzer? Oscilloscope style.

hehhehe, I think all those wavy line things are from a heart meter. i don't what they are supposed to be called but its one of those things that goes bleep every spike or whatever.

Martyn

30th July 2001, 23:03

Originally posted by MechCD
Cancer? surgical implant? A loose wire on the front of the ct camera (or whatever)

Hmmm, 1 seems to have a fracture towards the bottom (of the pic) while 1a doesn't

I wanna know!

Very observant - a basal skull fracture is indeed present :)

Martyn

30th July 2001, 23:09

Originally posted by Dustin
It's a digital graph of a spectrum analyzer? Oscilloscope style.

They're Electrocardiograph's ECG's (EKG in the states). It's a pictorial representation of the electrical pathways in the heart. Each set of spikes, can be broken down to represent atrial contraction, ventricular contraction and repolarisation of the myocardium (bit more complicated than that but you get the idea). If there is part of the heart that has died for example, there will be a change in the way electrical activity passes through the heart muscle fibres. This will be reflected in the shape of the waveform you see on the ECG.

So by looking at the waveform, you can diagnose heart problems.

MechCD

30th July 2001, 23:35

Don't know how to spell tis...
alztimers? (plaques in brain)

this person shouldn't be movin' around wuth a skull fracture......

Evil jelly beans? I'm out of guesses and stuff rom my CPR and First Aide classes I take every year.........

Medic193

31st July 2001, 00:03

Originally posted by tril0Byte
OK super-medics, here's another for your deliberation and consideration...

1. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/cthead1.jpg

1a. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/cthead2.jpg

<RolfHarrisVoice> ...can you see what it is yit?... </RolfHarrisVoice>

Two CT head scans, same head, but whats the problem here?

Here's three more rhythm strips :)

2. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/5.gif

3. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/6.gif

4. http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/7.gif

One is easy, but what about the other two??? ;)

haven't read on yet to see if anyone else has answered these but here are the answers.

[list=1]
A-Fib
1 degree AV block
Sinus Tach @ 140, nearing SVT but not there yet.
Michael's question: 2 Degree AV block type 1 or otherwise known as Mobitz 1. I would need to see a longer strip, but I can barely see the P-R getting longer and then skipping a complex.[/list=1]

MechCD

31st July 2001, 00:07

Originally posted by Medic193

haven't read on yet to see if anyone else has answered these but here are the answers.

[list=1]
A-Fib
1 degree AV block

[/list=1]

as in a fib as a trick or small lie or as some medical term i don't know

SkzDaLimit

31st July 2001, 00:39

Originally posted by Medic193

haven't read on yet to see if anyone else has answered these but here are the answers.

[list=1]
A-Fib
1 degree AV block
Sinus Tach @ 140, nearing SVT but not there yet.
Michael's question: 2 Degree AV block type 1 or otherwise known as Mobitz 1. I would need to see a longer strip, but I can barely see the P-R getting longer and then skipping a complex.[/list=1]

Teena says you got about 85% right on ours. Correct diagnosis is as follows: Sinus rhythm w/ 2nd degree AV block Mobitz type 1 Weinkebach (4:3).

-Michael

PS: Teena wants to know if you have heard of Weinkebach? They used that term over 15 yrs ago when she was in school, or do you all use a different term now.

She was an arrhythmia monitoring tech when she was in nursing.

wylie

31st July 2001, 02:16

Is there contrast media present??

Martyn

31st July 2001, 05:35

Answers:

Medic, nearly 100%.

1. is Atrial fibrilation, easily spotted, irregular rythm, irregular baseline, absent P waves.

2. is 1st degree heart block, lengthened P-R interval

3. Exercise Induced Ischaemia, tachycardia, flipped T waves and S-T depression. This is more like what Phil's mum was referring to.

The CT scan got you all though.

http://www.synobyte.com/cvtest/cthead1.jpg

If you look closely, you'll notice the basal skull fracture, that's significant. This scan shows a nasogastric tube that has been accidentally passed into the brain by medical staff. Ordinarily, these tubes are passed down the nose and into the stomach, to either feed someone or drain off stomach contents. They are extremely common and are freequently inserted by nurses and techs. However in this case, instead of the tube following the normal path, it has become re-directed because of the basal skull fracture and has been accidentaly passed up into the cavities of the brain.

MechCD

31st July 2001, 08:16

Ummm, isn't that a bad thing? I sure wouldn't want tubes floppin around in my brain.

wylie

31st July 2001, 08:17

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!:eek:

Martyn

31st July 2001, 09:09

Originally posted by MechCD
Ummm, isn't that a bad thing? I sure wouldn't want tubes floppin around in my brain.

Yeah it's bad - i wouldn't be impressed if you did it to me, can you say ... litigation!

Though how bad is a matter of opinion, it may have no ill effects at all, or it may cause some personality changes, loss of memory etc (whoops, there goes january '89). It may just have made his foot twitch a bit on the way in. It may have more serious physiological consequences, but maybe not. Ppl can suffer quite horrific brain injuries and make superb recoveries - don't automatically assume a bullet in the head is allways fatal (though it often is).

Medic193

31st July 2001, 10:11

Originally posted by SkzDaLimit

Teena says you got about 85% right on ours. Correct diagnosis is as follows: Sinus rhythm w/ 2nd degree AV block Mobitz type 1 Weinkebach (4:3).

-Michael

PS: Teena wants to know if you have heard of Weinkebach? They used that term over 15 yrs ago when she was in school, or do you all use a different term now.

She was an arrhythmia monitoring tech when she was in nursing.

Ya ya ya:D The SR was just a give-in. I didn't know I was being graded.:D Yep they still teach Weinkebach. It's just easier to type and spell 2 degree AV block type 1. :D