Artic Silver II

[dezekiel]

I followed the directions for artic silver II and I was careful to use very little, but my temps are about the same as the crap I used before. Are their any tricks for artic silver II? Does it improve with time?

Dan

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by dezekiel
I followed the directions for artic silver II and I was careful to use very little, but my temps are about the same as the crap I used before. Are their any tricks for artic silver II? Does it improve with time?

Dan

The sad truth is... If you had the regular thermal paste installed correctly before, you'll see at the most 1-2c better performance. It doesn't make a difference for most of us, but it will help those guys trying to get thier 1.4325GHz machines to 1.4326GHz :)

[Bruce]

The guy at the parts house said Artic Silver only works on AMD, that it destroys something critical on Intel. Was he feeding me a line, or is that true?

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by Bruce
The guy at the parts house said Artic Silver only works on AMD, that it destroys something critical on Intel. Was he feeding me a line, or is that true?

He's definately full of shit!

[dezekiel]

Ok, since I am hanging one honker of a fan from my Alpha 6035, I needed to add more foam pads to the top of my PIII so the dam Alpha would behave and stay in place. So now my Temp's are a few degrees lower with the Artic Silver II and the stabilized Alpha.
Maybe it will go down a bit more in the next few days? Who knows!

Dan

[wbierman]

Have you lapped the bottom of the HS and the top of the CPU? In my experience it makes a difference.

[wylie]

Heres s nasty little thing that just this minute happened to me.

Took HSF off duron 800 to close L1 bridges. Reapplied aforementioned thermal goo after cleaning processor (that stuff is messy!) & replaced HSF....temps suddenly way up there even before running genome. checked core voltage....1.85.

took HSF off again.

during my cleaning I had smudged a damn small amount over the L7 bridges causing default voltage to hit 1.85v. I cleaned it carefully off, voltage returned to 1.64, temps back to normal and we all lived happily ever after.

Glad I could share this with you :D

[wbierman]

A very close call indeed! Glad you and the CPU survived...

[dnar]

If both the Heatsink and CPU mating surfaces are true and free from scratches, you will see very little difference between differing compounds, as you have very good thermal transfer to begin with. Thermal compound is only required to fill the minute gaps between mating surfaces, hence the better the mating surface contact, the less affective better compounds will be.



Just my theory anyways.:D

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by wylie
Heres s nasty little thing that just this minute happened to me.

Took HSF off duron 800 to close L1 bridges. Reapplied aforementioned thermal goo after cleaning processor (that stuff is messy!) & replaced HSF....temps suddenly way up there even before running genome. checked core voltage....1.85.

took HSF off again.

during my cleaning I had smudged a damn small amount over the L7 bridges causing default voltage to hit 1.85v. I cleaned it carefully off, voltage returned to 1.64, temps back to normal and we all lived happily ever after.

Glad I could share this with you :D

Wylie... How do you expect to find out the maximum potential of that beatiful 800 Duron without using 1.85Vcore. Do you overclock at all? Have you made 1GHz?

[wylie]

mate I figure 800 straight to 1 gig pushing it just a bit for a first overclock of a cpu....
wouldnt mind working up to it :)

[Virus]

Hold on, I'll have to ask my PIII 550@800 if he's noticed any problems over the past year. Nope, he says Artic Silver is fine on Intels.:D

[Martyn]

yup, same here PIII 600 @ 856, using peltier + AS + Swftech for nearly a year without a problem 30C running genome rock solid!

The guy at the shop is full of it.

I'm also running my 1.2 tbird at 1.85vcore, no probs (water cooled) - need the volts to stabalise 1.5gig also using ASII, less is more!

Like others, it's doubtfull it'll (AS) make any real difference, maybe a couple of degrees at most - might do something if you're on the very edge, but otherwise, you probably wont see any benefit. We use it because it's there, perfectionists and hobby nuts, we just gotta try.

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by wylie
mate I figure 800 straight to 1 gig pushing it just a bit for a first overclock of a cpu....
wouldnt mind working up to it :)

Excellent, I have to use at least 1.8v to run my Duron 800 at 1Ghz. I guess yours can top otu a little more than mine though. Even at 1.85v I can't get stability above 1Ghz :(

But I'm happy, great performance for such a cheap CPU. :D

[siggy]

Originally posted by dnar
If both the Heatsink and CPU mating surfaces are true and free from scratches, you will see very little difference between differing compounds, as you have very good thermal transfer to begin with. Thermal compound is only required to fill the minute gaps between mating surfaces, hence the better the mating surface contact, the less affective better compounds will be.



Just my theory anyways.:D

Mating? are you still talking about computers here?:D

[dnar]

Do not use Artic Silver when mating.......:rolleyes:

[zhotfire]

Originally posted by dnar
Do not use Artic Silver when mating.......:rolleyes:
ROFLMAO!!! :D

[wylie]

Rick what temps do you get at 1.85?
Mine were at 50C at normal load. thats cpu destroying in summer here running genome.

[Rick_Deadly]

Originally posted by wylie
Rick what temps do you get at 1.85?
Mine were at 50C at normal load. thats cpu destroying in summer here running genome.

I have a Duron 800 at 1Ghz using 1.85v Vcore.

At full load the highest I have seen my CPU temp is 52C. The mainboard temp is currently 31C and the CPU is 50C. I am using a Globalwin FOP-38. The fan is only running at 7v to keep it quiet.

When I had the FOP-38 fan running at 12v and the CPU only OC'd to 900Mhz, the CPU never did get above 34C and I thought my sensor was busted :) I lapped the bottom of the FOP-38 and use Dow Corning 340 Silicone Heatsink Compund.

Note: When lapping the FOP-38 heatsink, I noticed it did have a concave spot right where the CPU core makes contact, so I'm glad I did it.

[wylie]

Summer here gets to 40+
those temps are not an option for me.

Got it to 945 (so far) at 1.64v

[Dave S]

Artic Silver II, use it on all my Intel’s (x10) did play around on the first dual with different compounds and found that Artic Silver II made about 2 to 4 degrees difference:eek:, so they all got it, full load 24/7 35 to 40 max and that’s in a room that’s 10 to 15 degrees hotter than it is outside, so it works for me.:D

NOTE
One thing I did find was by flooding the space around the die of the CPU with Artic Silver II made at least 3 degrees difference! Yer I know keep it flat and I would not recommend it for everybody but I’m happy. :) :)

[dezekiel]

An update to my Artic Silver II/Alpha 6035/PIII adventure..

I wasn't pleased with the results I got from Artic Silver II or from the new higher capacity fan I added to my Alpha 6035. So I made a few adjustments:

1) I made it so the Alpha clipped onto the socket with a bit more force. It was too loose before.

2) I scrubbed the crap out of the bottom of the Alpha using Alcohol and a scrubbing pad to remove any trace of the old thermal compound.

3) I cleaned the hell out of the top of the PIII as well.

4) I remounted everything following directions and making sure I did not use too much Artic Silver II.

My temps dropped about 8-10 F , pretty cool!

Dana

[siggy]

Way cool. As it keeps getting hotter outside. I computer keeps getting hotter. My A/C just can't keep up.

[siggy]

Where can I get Artic Silver II? Can I get it at any computer store?

[Miles]

My local high performance computer shop carries Arctic Silver in stock. On the web, it can be found at places like

http://www.azzo.com http://www.overclockerz.com
http://www.pcnut.com

[siggy]

Thanks Miles. :D

[siggy]

OK I went by the computer store and they did not have Artic Silver. But said "Antec Reference Silver Thermal Compound" is the same thing. Is there any truth in it? Is it just as good?

[Dustin]

Doubt it. He's probably just trying to pull a fast one.

[siggy]

Why can't salespeople just be honest? :(

[wylie]

Coz then they wouldnt make sales would they!!!:mad:

[siggy]

When I was in sales, I was honest and I did fine! And I got customers coming back to me. Unlike the dishonest ones, they have to work hard at getting new customers all the time.

[wylie]

You give me hope siggy! :) :)

[eldiablo]

Originally posted by siggy
OK I went by the computer store and they did not have Artic Silver. But said "Antec Reference Silver Thermal Compound" is the same thing. Is there any truth in it? Is it just as good?

i just saw that today also. it says 99% silver something-or-other, just like arctic silver does. i'd bet if it's not the same, it's close. it's probably good if you don't want to/can't wait to mail order a.s., and/or you aren't looking to squeeze every last ghz from your pc.