Five days to official release...

[X-Calibur]

... of Fedora Core 3 Final.

Are you ready?

X'

[dnar]

Yup.

[MikeTimbers]

Anything particularly special about Fedora?

[dnar]

Fedora is bleeding edge with updates just about every day.

[MikeTimbers]

:cool:

Should I dump SUESE 9.1?

[X-Calibur]

Mike: depends, would you dump Suse for RedHat? Basically, Fedora is like RedHat 10+, the difference is they update faster, sooner, you still can stick with the final release (stable public release) but have access to the latest and finest in updates. If you break something, it's really easy to revert back with package management (I prefer yum *yellow dog updater modifed* but up2date has done it's proofs).

And make that 4 days now....


X'

[dnar]

I am impressed X, ;)

You sound like a seasoned pro now, all you need is a bit more anti-gates nasty edge and your ready to wear sandles full time. ;)

[X-Calibur]

Only 3 more days to go...

It itches me now...

[dnar]

3 days or 3 more sleeps?

Get some ointment on it mate. ;)

[X-Calibur]

I am impressed X, ;)

You sound like a seasoned pro now, all you need is a bit more anti-gates nasty edge and your ready to wear sandles full time. ;)

Dude, if you count the time it's been 18 months being windependent and before that I made some try-in try-out with various Linux flavors all the way back to RedHat 6.2, but could never stick to it because I couldn't really be as efficient or have the "same" proggies... beside, Linux has made a long run since then, it is now a very mature OS, so mature it's almost old now... really do you remember when just getting aDSL to work was a hassle? In RH 6.2 it took me REALLY a long time to just have internet access, booting in and out of windows with files on a disk, then again... Now, you really just shove the disk in and you have a fully working AND configured system. After that it's just a matter of trying the "break" the thing.

It's easy to advance when the system is flawless and you just try to do stuff you don'T need really but looks cool then to get things you need working in the first place. Somehow your tolerance for "difficulties" is shorter with the former then the latter.

Then there's also the internet, there has been a huge shift from Usenet to Bulletin Boards. If you remember back in the ACHO days, there were not that many BBs and getting information required asking for the question - a very well known risk for getting flamed... nowadays, if you have a problem, it is SURE someone else had the same problem AND fixed it. So you just have to hit google.com/linux and type in your question. The answer IS on the first page.

There is only ONE program I have not found a replacement for (so VMWare is my friend). Actually I have found a replacement it's just that my hospital's server doesn't allow for fetching whole DICOM files, just individual images so that's a no go to view exams from home. The company that does the software replied they have no intention in supporting Linux. But it seems their binaries are Java-based.... :snickers: so when I have time I'll try hacking it. It really should not be complicated. And it's not like I don't have an alternative, VMWare works like a charm anyways...

And for the rest, either Linux does it as good as the other company or most of the time, it does it better. Simple examples, Avery (tm) stickers template are always off on Word and you loose heaps of time adjusting the damned thing. Tried it with OpenOffice, perfect fit the first time. Beat that.


Enought for now.

X'

[dnar]

Mate, preaching to the converted. I hate un-infecting freinds Windows boxes, just hate it.

We still use W2K in the office, and the problems are endless...

I also have 2 progies I rely on MS for at home, MYOB Accounting and Protel board/schematic design. Win4Lin/Win95is my friend. Boots in 1 second, never crashes!

I recall the endless nights helping you through the Linux experience, you havnt called me on ICQ (for Linux probs) in months! I am proud of you mate! Once you get a leg up, get to learn the vastness that is Linux under the hood, it's a mighty reliable and powerfull tool!

Onya X! (wylie is the same - his Accounting office runs it also).

[X-Calibur]

Mate, preaching to the converted.
Not preaching to you dufus but to others that may read my ramble from time to time!

I recall the endless nights helping you through the Linux experience, you havnt called me on ICQ (for Linux probs) in months! I am proud of you mate!

Dude it wasn't night, it was plain daylight... for me anyway... :D Ya know I hold you one...

X'


BTW: only one more day to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dnar]

Oooo Ooooo! Can't wait!

BTW, call me a dufus one more time and I'll stick your email addy on the SPAM black list!!!

[dnar]

They are building the release now X, it's on the servers and should be open on mirrors within 12 hours. :)

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/

[dnar]

:whistles:

Hey X, it's Christmas. :)

[dnar]

And don;t forget the updates for FC3. A shit load already and it's only been out a day! God I love Fedora...

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/3/i386/

[MechCD]

Hrm, so if I want to go from core 1 to core 3, how much hair pulling would be involved? I'd have some angry people if the ftp server goes down for more than a few hours (I love havin' control of that sucker)

[dnar]

Mech, I would do a fresh install mate. Upgrading 1 to 3 could be troublesome from what I have read.

Ok, I got off my lazy arse, pciked up 2 x WD 80GB JB drives (1xsystem 1xhome) and whattaya know? One doesnt even spin... Oh well, installed FC3 on one drive regardless as I was all revved and "in the mood". Installed over the network using NFS, too bloody easy. 17 minutes flat! Selected "ALL" packages and partitioned as follows:-
[wayne@Criten ~]$ df -m
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 19689 6383 12306 35% /
/dev/hda1 99 11 83 12% /boot
/dev/hda6 4031 2197 1629 58% /home
/dev/hda8 46258 37957 5951 87% /mnt/scratch
/dev/hda2 2016 50 1864 3% /tmp
/dev/hda7 2016 581 1332 31% /var
holly:/pub 112676 88599 24078 79% /mnt/pub
Ignore /mnt/pub, thats my server. Installed the 160+ updates (ROFL) and all is well. Yes FC3 feels faster, YES FC3 feels smoother, YES FC3 still dont support mp3 or mpeg! A quick diggety around the net to locate suitable rpms and my pirate music and pr0n collection is sorted.

Copy in most of my /home from backup, re-install my favourite themes and /etc settings and I'm back in fully functional groovy land within one evening. Well done RedHat, err Fedora team! Bravo! Only one real pissser, despite copying my old evolution directory across, Evolution 2.0.2 uses a different mail file format, I have my contacts, todo list and calander but NOT my old mail... I'll look into this.

Well worth the effort is this upgrade to FC3...

Screenies soon (after beer). :)

[dnar]

Ok, screeny time.

http://dnaresearch.com.au/images/linux/dual_head_2560x1024_12_thumb.jpg

Full Size 800kB (http://dnaresearch.com.au/images/linux/dual_head_2560x1024_12.jpg)

[dnar]

You gotta love this, WD 80GB JB drive, Abit NF7S-2.0

[root@Criten wayne]# /sbin/hdparm -tT /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
Timing cached reads: 2232 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1115.05 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 164 MB in 3.04 seconds = 54.03 MB/sec

:P

[dnar]

Come on X, post your screenshots!

[X-Calibur]

Voila
It's kinda fat though.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/pierre-luc.c/Screenshot.jpg

[X-Calibur]

I would've thought dnar would have commented on my desktop by now... especially my cool background... :(

[dnar]

Cool! Sorry, I missed this!

You tried XFce yet X?

[dnar]

My New Years desktop. :)

http://dnaresearch.com.au/images/linux/dual_head_2560x1024_13_thumb.jpg

Full size 400kB (http://dnaresearch.com.au/images/linux/dual_head_2560x1024_13.jpg)

[dnar]

My 9 year old son has been nagging me for a Linux boxen, I finally got off my arse and loaded an 80GB drive into one of my PIII diskless nodes, installed FC3 and now he's happily checking out Fedora. I installed ALL packages (inc servers) so he should be quiet for a while. :)

He has been playing with HTML and this machine will be his very own web server. If his "site" ends up looking really good, I'll publish it on my domain for the world to see. :)

He's still in the MS groove, checkout the window border theme he found for Metacity:-

http://dnaresearch.com.au/images/linux/bart_fc3.jpg